Wednesday, July 16, 2008

Liturgy: Study Sacrosanctum Concilium at Catholic Answers Forum

At the Catholic Answers Forum (CAF), I've started a thread studying Sacrosanctum Concilium, the Vatican II Constitution on the Sacred Liturgy. As I've mentioned before on my blog, the Pope has invited the whole Church to re-visit this first document of the Second Vatican Council to grow in our understanding of this Most Blessed Sacrament, the Holy Eucharist. This document also speaks about the direction of the liturgical reformation that the Church was preparing to undertake.

If you would like to read along with us -- I'm posting the document, piece-by-piece, with commentary and questions -- feel free! The thread is here.

If you want to contribute questions or answers, you'll need to register with CAF (painless, really) and then register as a "Book Club" member (which might take a day or two to be approved). But anyone can read along without registering.


Anonymous said...

Thanks for the invitation at WDTPRS. I registered and I am in!

japhy said...

Great! Hope to see you there. :) said...

The only thing you need to know about Sacrosanctum Concilium (SC) is that it's an exercise in loop-holes. It says many very nice thing about Latin, Chant, and tradition, but it ALLOWS for the complete obliteration of worship as it was before the Council. There's almost nothing in the new Mass that's not permitted by SC, and anyone who says that the reforms just haven't been implemented correctly can't logically justify their position. A fascinating -- and eye-opening! -- read on the topic is Christopher Ferrara's examination of SC which is sub-titled "A layer looks for loopholes" which can be found at

japhy said...

megotoaz, I respectfully disagree. I will read Mr. Ferrara's essay, but here is my stance.

SC, if wrenched out of the tradition of the Church, can certainly be used to allow for all sorts of changes -- wholesale, even -- in the Mass. If you read it and think the "participation" it's referring to is EMHCs and a plethora of lay liturgical ministries, you're reading it outside the liturgical tradition of the Church.

I have read SC line-by-line, a year ago. I was surprised by it. I was confused how we got from SC to what is known as the Ordinary Form of the Roman Rite. I believe there has been a departure, and I believe that the 1962 liturgy can be (and should be) reformed according to the mandates of SC, in continuity with the tradition of the Church.

preacherman said...

Your blogs is one of my favorites. I want to thank you soooooooo much for sharing your thoughts on my blog. It means alot to hear from such a diverse group of believers. I love you brother and hope all is going well in your life. You have been a true blessing to me (your blog, your post, your encouraging words, wisdom). Thank.

preacherman said...

I also welcome any of your readers to join in the discussion on my blog. I hope you have a blessed weekend! :-)